Slain in the Spirit
This is an examination of the Bible passages used to support being "slain in the Spirit"
"prove all things"
1 Thessalonians 5:21
Characteristics of the "slain-in-the-Spirit" experience when it happens
1. Usually happens in gatherings in large amounts of people, sometimes in smaller group. I have not heard or any occurrences when a person is on their own.
2. In large gatherings it is usually after a time of worship in song and a message that includes an invitation to come forward and receive a touch from the Lord, or some similar invitation.
3. At the time, people will have come forward often with others, hands will have been laid on them them and some will be praying for them
4. They fall backwards
5. After that there are various - we've already looked at some of these.
Characteristics of what happens once a person has fallen down.
1. They may say they had vision,
2. Some may not see anything but say God revealed something to them (knowledge of something).
3. Others speak of being healed in some way, often an inner healing.
4. Others still start speaking in tongues,
5. Still others go down and speak of being given words of prophecy,
6. Some say happened at the time they came to faith and were saved. And some say...
7. Nothing happened but God used it to get their attention... God let me know I need to take time out for him.
Compare Characteristics with biblical examples of people falling down - people God came to meet.
1. In the Bible, the person will be alone, not with others
2. In the Bible there is no singing or invitation to receive a touch from the Lord
3. In the Bible no one will be laying hands on them or praying for them
4. In the Bible, instead of falling backwards, they will fall forwards on their face
5. In the Bible, the person ALWAYS sees something BEFORE they fall. WITH EVERY SINGLE EXAMPLE.
Here are some things that NEVER happen in the Bible
Not once in Scripture when some one received the Spirit of God, do they fall as result of receiving Spirit
Not once does a person fall down and come up saved - Paul wasn't saved till Ananaias preached to him.
Not once do we see people speak in tongues, not once, never.
Not once is it associated with healing - even when Jesus prayed for people, no one fell down and then got up healed except person who was demon possessed. And the demon threw him down before Jesus did anything.
Not once is it associated with prophecy. Finally,
When a person fell down in
the Bible, it was
never trivial! They did not just knocked down to get their
rather, they received a divine revelation of God that was to be recorded
all time in the Word of God.
Scriptures used to support
slain in Spirit
but which do not (if you keep in mind the above comparisons)
After the reference, the
passage is presented in
note form. You can look up the passage
if you want to study it in more detail but the notes should be
show the Scriptural pattern. Numbers in
brackets are verses
Rev. 1:10 In the Spirit on the Lord's day and heard . (12) turned to see the voice that spoke with me; when I saw him I fell at his feet as dead and he laid his hand on me... Heard first, turned and saw, as result of what saw, fell as dead man.Gen. 17:1 Abraham 90yrs old. the Lord appeared, "I am the almighty God." (3) and Abraham fell on his face and God talked with him. Saw first, then fell on face.
Num 22:26 Baalam. Angel stands in front of donkey and donkey stops. (22) the Lord stood in the way (23) when donkey saw he turned aside and Baalam smote him. (27) when donkey saw angel, the DONKEY fell down under Baalam; Baalam smote donkey. The Lord opened donkeys mouth and donkey spoke to Baalam. Lord opened Baalam's eyes and when Baalam saw the Lord, he too fell down, on his face.Judges 13:18 Menoah. when angel of Lord ascended to heaven in flames. Menoah and wife fell to ground on faces AFTER they saw this
1 Kings 18:37? Elijah praying. Fire of Lord fell and consumed sacrifice. when all the people SAW it they fell on faces and said, "The Lord, he is God, the Lord he is God"1 Chron 21:16 When David lifted up eyes and saw the angel of the Lord stand between earth and heaven with a sword in his hand, David and elders of Israel fell on faces and David confessed his sin
Ezek. 1:28 What I saw had the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord.. when I saw I fell on my face and I heard a voice of the one who spokeEzek 3:22 hand of Lord upon me.. rise and go forth (23) then rose and went forth and saw glory of the Lord; and fell on face and spirit of Lord entered him
Doesn't it make sense that
people fall forwards
on their faces, when they are exposed to the King of Glory!! Makes sense if OVERCOME by the POWER AND
PRESENCE OF THE LORD that they would get down on faces in holy fear.
Some say that they can't wait
till the day when
they get to see Jesus. And say it will
be wonderful. But note that the man who
was on face in Rev. 1 was the same man who rested his head on Jesus
was disciple whom Jesus loved. Who could
be closer to the Lord than the Apostle John?
The only apostle at the foot of the cross. Note
that this man, on the day Jesus appeared
to him, he was on his face. When we see
Jesus first time it will probably not be baptist or presbyterian. It's going to be a Quaker.
Dan. 8:16 heard a
mans voice, (17) he came near where Dan stood and Dan was afraid and
face.. then the angel spoke to him
Dan 10:7 Daniel alone saw vision but not the others, but a great quaking fell upon them and they ran (8) Daniel left alone, no strength in him, fell into deep sleep on his face on the groundMatthew 17: (transfiguration) Peter, James and John. (2) Jesus transfigured (3) Moses and Elijah (6) when disciples heard it fell on face and were very much afraid, they were told to arise and be not afraid.
Matthew 26:39 Jesus in Gethsemane with
(36) sit here while I pray over there (37) took Peter, James
John, "tarry here and watch" (39) fell on face and prayed...
These people were experiencing an incredibly holy moment but in none of these examples was it a trivial moment like "God wanted to get my attention." Not like some powerful vision that was to be examined by the people of God for eons and eons. The Biblical examples were not trivial events.. .
Examples of people receiving Spirit of God
Acts 2:2 Spirit
poured out. Tongues of fire, filled
with Spirit, tongues spoken, NONE of
them fell on ground
Acts 8: Philip preaching in Samaria, people received Christ, Peter and John pray to receive Spirit lay hands on but not one person falls down when receive Holy SpiritActs 10:44 Cornelius.. while Peter speaking, Spirit fell. Heard speaking with tongues, praising God.. baptised
But no one falls down, backwards forwards or sidewaysActs 19:2 OT believers asked if they had received Holy Spirit, not Christians but followers of John the baptist. Gospel preached.. believers baptised in name of Jesus; Paul laid hands on; new Christians spoke in tongues and prophesied; But none fell down.
Matthew 4:23-24 Jesus went about all Gallilee preaching, healing casting out demons, many people being healed of many different things. None fell down.Matthew 9:18-25 esp. (35) Jesus went everywhere healing; many people healed; not one example of person falling down after he spoke to or touched them
Mark 9:14-17 This is the only time a person falls down and it is when being delivered of a demon. (20) when he saw Jesus he went into convulsions fell in ground BEFORE Jesus did anything. NOTE: it was the demon that caused him to fall to the ground, not Jesus or the Holy Spirit!John 18:2-5 Jesus asked the soldiers who came to arrest him, "who are you seeking" they said "Jesus of Nazareth" He replied.. "I am he"; as soon as he said "I am he" they went backwards and fell to the ground. They did not fall backwards but they went backwards and THEN fell to the ground. NOTE these people were coming to arrest Jesus.. They were not coming to be healed. Jesus let them know that they have no power over him, rather, he is letting them arrest him. Another gospel says he could have called 12 legions of angels to his rescue but he didn't
Acts 5:2 two
people who fell down but did not get
There are not many people who will want to get into that line!Acts 2:37 after Peter preached, hearts were pricked; what do we do.. repent, be baptised and you will receive Spirit (41) all who believed and were baptised; ABOUT 3000; they were continually in the temple; (47) the Lord added those being saved...
Review: God came to all these people and all these people were alone
Acts 9 Jesus
appear to Saul; on way to Damascus Saul sees something and THEN falls to the
ground. He didn't get up saved because
he still needed Annanias to come to him and explain the gospel.
There are no egs. Of people
falling when get
prayed for. Every time, it specifically
notes that they fell on their face, which you have to admit is hard to
you are falling backwards. Every time
they fall after they heard or saw something.
This is not seen today! Instead
what we usually see are crowds who
are called up to a STAGE and fall backwards and then experience
Does that mean this phenomena
is not of
God. Because if it is believed to be of God, then
we have a problem, a BIG PROBLEM. What we first need to understand
here is that nobody can defend this phenomena Scripturally. You cannot defend the doctrine of a person
being "slain in the Spirit" from the Bible.
So does that mean it is not
God? Are we saying God cannot do
anything new? Is God limited to
operating only in the way he operated in the past? No.
But notice something that brings strong caution. We serve a Holy
God and we
serve a God of purpose. We do not serve
a God who acts in trivialities. We do
not serve a God who is going to say, "You know what, I needed to get
attention so I thought I would make you fall backwards."
If it comes to a time when he really needs to
get your attention, then consider how he did it in the Bible. Consider Ananias and Sophira. That
was true slaying in the Spirit. It is a far cry
from carpet time that we see
today. We're not going to see many people
getting in that queue.
But what if God were is doing a new thing? Well, we need to ask, "In a world of false signs and wonders, would God, through the SPIRIT OF TRUTH do a new thing and not give us any way to check it out?" Would he just leave it up to whether it felt good? And how are we going to check out the next new things he does? And the next, and the next? How will you check it out to be sure you are not deceived?
The fact is because God knows
the heart is
deceitful and the devil is a deceiver, HE COMMANDS to prove all things
Thess. 5:21) whether they be doctrine or "spiritual" experiences. The
Bible commands, "Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith;
test yourselves" (2 Cor. 13:5).
Without the Bible as our guide, we are lost and at the devil's
mercy. Even if we used something like
the fruit of a certain experience, this is still so uncertain. The Bible speaks of false fruit. Fruit
that can be burned up in the
judgment. The devil is not beyond
allowing some good fruit through if it will help us swallow a lie. It's a good war tactic. Remember, we are at war. A
spoonful of sugar doesn't just help the
medicine go down, he helps the poison go down too. Besides,
feelings are not a reliable guide to
I have a personal belief
which is of great
concern to me, that God's people will be duped into checking out
phenomena by applying the "God can do whatever he like's" motto to
any new thing that happens. I can see
this playing beautifully into the hands of Satan. Where
does that leave you? It leaves you in a position
whereby the only
thing you have left to judge your own fallible judgment with, is your